奧斯卡幕后不為人知的真情一幕

Arun Rath （Host）： The Oscars are covered from pretty much every angle 1）imaginable. There are over 3 hours of red carpet interviews before the ceremony even starts. For those of you who like 2）a healthy dose of 3）snark， Joan Rivers is already on the fashion beat， and the live blogging has already begun. But there’s an amazing perspective on the action that gets missed. There’s a brief moment backstage—after a performer has won an award and before they step in front of more photographers—that’s seen by almost nobody but 4）stagehands and our next guest.

Anthony Breznican is a senior writer for“Entertainment Weekly.” He’s been covering the Oscars for 14 years， and he’s been in that spot backstage. We asked him on the show to 5）peel back the curtain for us.

Anthony Breznican： Everybody says they’re backstage if they’re not in the audience. But this is literally where the scenery is moving on and coming off. It’s the 6）nexus point for everything that’s happening on stage.

Rath： And is it just incredibly busy as things are 7）cueing up for the next award， the next presenters？

Breznican： It is， because people come back to hang out and greet the host. You know， you’ll see Jack Nicholson 8）floating around back there having a cigarette with a bunch of crew guys.

Rath： Are you sure that was a cigarette？

Breznican： Yeah， it was. I’m sure. But it’s…if you’re back there， you’re， like， up close and personal with everyone who normally would be， you know， 9）at arm’s length. And so you get to see some really human moments.

Rath： So what have been some of the more memorable backstage moments for you？ This is after the people have got their awards and they come backstage and you see some of the real reaction.

Breznican： Oh， absolutely. I remember last year Jennifer Lawrence won for “Silver Linings Playbook，” and she kind of famously 10）stumbled up the stairs and gave this very charming speech， telling everybody， oh， you’re standing up because I fell. She was really nervous and unsure of how that played when she came backstage.

And I remember all she wanted was a 11）doughnut. They had these Krispy Kreme doughnuts on a little card table back there for the crew. And， like， I remember she’s walking with her Oscar， she’s in the least 12）glamorous place in the world in this beautiful gown， these， you know， these kind of like stone walls and 13）dank shadows， and she just 14）lunges for this box and is like flipping it open. And the only remaining doughnuts have， like， the chocolate icing on them. And I think she looked at those， and she went “er…”， I’m not getting that all over me before I go to the photo room before 100 photographers. And she 15）ditched it. But she really wanted that doughnut. I just remember thinking that was really kind of sweet.

Rath： That’s 16）willpower.

Breznican： Mm-hmm.

Rath： Now， what happens with the bigger awards， it’s the 17）recipient from the past year presents to whoever’s winning the current year， right？

Breznican： Yeah. They’re sort of like the spirit guide for whoever the winners are， the ones who won last year. And it’s reverse. The Best Actress last year presents Best Actor this year.

Rath： OK. And so do you get to see what the interaction is like between these two people， these Hollywood stars？

Breznican： I think that’s the most moving thing that I get to witness backstage. A few years ago when Marion Cotillard won for “La Vie En Rose，” she’s this tiny， birdlike person. She’s very small. Forest Whitaker had won the year before， Best Actor for“The Last King of Scotland.”

Rath： Not birdlike.

Breznican： He is not birdlike. He is huge. He is tall. He is big. He has hands that are like baseball 18）mitts. And as they walk offstage， she just begins crying， she’s shaking. She just seizes onto him， just latches on and hugs him. And he’s very gently， like， patting her head， patting her back. And I just remember her saying， like， I feel so 19）disoriented and lost. And he was saying， yeah， that’s what magic about it. That’s what you’re supposed to feel.

And I’ve seen that time and again， you know？ Jeff Bridges， when he won， you think， you know， the 20）dude， he’s pretty 21）laidback. Kate Winslet presented to him， and she came back like a stage mom， like Mama Rose. She’s like， OK， he needs to get to the thank you cam to thank all the people he forgot to thank on stage. And he’s like， I don’t even know what a thank you cam is. And she was directing him back there.

Rath： Are there some that are better spirit guides than others，some that maybe not so great at guiding？

Breznican： Yes. That’s definitely true. I remember when Sandra Bullock won for “The Blind Side.” And she does the same thing they all do—walks offstage and is plunged into darkness after being in probably the brightest spot on the planet at that moment. And she turns to Sean Penn， who had just given her the trophy， and she goes， well， what do I do？ Where do I go now？ And he kind of put his hands in his pocket and shrugs and goes： I don’t know. Then he walks away. She’s just sort of standing there， like， you know， what now？ And you know who came to her rescue？

Rath： Who？

Breznican： Forest Whitaker happened to be back there presenting. And Sandra Bullock says， you know， what I want is a cheeseburger. And Forest Whitaker says， OK， well， just off Orange outside the theater， you head down past Hollywood Boulevard， there’s an In-N-Out Burger. He’s…I mean， this guy， if you win an Oscar， you want Forest Whitaker there.

Rath： They should just station Forest Whitaker backstage（unintelligible） there to help people out.

Breznican： Exactly. Exactly. Paging Forest Whitaker. We have a runner， so.

Rath： Anthony Breznican is a senior writer for “Entertainment Weekly”. Anthony， thank you.

Breznican： Glad to be here.

阿倫·拉斯（主持人）：如今，媒體對奧斯卡盛會的播報堪稱全方位多角度。頒獎典禮沒開始，明星走紅地毯接受采訪就播足足三個多小時。喜歡來點無傷大雅的毒舌點評，可以關注瓊·里維斯的“時尚巡警”節目，她老人家早就“巡邏”得起勁，在實時博客中對嘉賓們的衣著打扮評頭品足得歡。但對這場盛會，還是有一個精彩的角度給遺漏了——演員獲頒獎項后和站到一眾攝影師前的那段過渡時間——那是幾乎沒有人會見識到的時刻，除了工作人員和我們下面出場的這位嘉賓。

安東尼·布賴尼科恩是《娛樂周刊》的資深專欄作家，連續十四年負責報道奧斯卡頒獎盛會。他就曾經站在后臺見識過那些特別的時刻。我們這就請他來揭開那道神秘的簾幕。

安東尼·布賴尼科恩：明星們都說，要是他們沒獲邀坐到頒獎禮的觀眾席里，那一定是自己淪落后臺靠邊站去了（譯者注：backstage 一語雙關，既指舞臺的后臺，也喻受冷落）。但實際的后臺正是場面輪轉的熱鬧之地，是臺上璀璨動態的集結樞紐。

拉斯：那里是不是超級忙亂？下一個獎項、下一位頒獎嘉賓，各種掐點出場信號要兼顧的。

布賴尼科恩：是的。因為明星們會走到后臺來晃蕩，跟主持人閑聊一番。比如說，你會看到杰克·尼科爾森游走在后臺，跟攝影組的一群工作人員抽煙聊天什么的。拉斯：你確定抽的是香煙？

布賴尼科恩：沒錯，我肯定。但……如果你在后臺，平常保持著一定距離的人，此刻你會跟他們走得很親很近。所以能看到一些真性情時刻。

拉斯：那么你在后臺看過哪些場面是很難忘的呢？就是他們拿完獎來到后臺的真情表現。

布賴尼科恩：噢，沒問題。我記得去年珍妮弗·勞倫斯憑《烏云背后的幸福線》獲獎，上臺的時候摔了那著名的一跤，然后在獲獎感言里對現場眾人說了那句可愛的話——噢，你們是因為我倒下了才站起來的。她走到后臺的時候其實還很緊張，也不確定自己剛才的表現有什么反響。

我記得她那時候最想的是吃個甜甜圈。當時后臺有臺手推小餐車，上面放著些給工作人員吃的KK甜甜圈（美國著名甜甜圈連鎖品牌）。我記得，她拿著奧斯卡獎座，一身美艷長裙，走在那毫不華麗的后臺，你們也懂的，就是石墻隔板、影影綽綽的陰冷過道，她就那樣猛然伸手翻開甜點盒。那里只剩下巧克力醬甜圈圈了。她往盒子里看了看，打住了，心里一定在想，采訪室有100個攝影師等著我，我可不能吃得滿嘴滿身巧克力醬。所以她放棄了。但她真的很想吃那甜圈圈。當時我就覺得那一幕很可愛。

拉斯：那是意志力的表現。

布賴尼科恩：嗯，沒錯。

拉斯：那么那些矚目大獎又怎樣，是去年獲獎者給今年得主頒獎的，是吧？

布賴尼科恩：對。去年的獎項得主就像是給今年獲獎者充當精神向導那樣。而且是反過來頒的，去年的最佳女主角給今年的最佳男主角頒獎。

拉斯：好吧，那你見過這些好萊塢巨星們在后臺的互動情景嗎？

布賴尼科恩：我想，那是我在后臺見過最感動的時刻了。幾年前，瑪麗昂·歌迪亞憑《玫瑰人生》獲最佳女主角獎，一副嬌小玲瓏的樣子。前一年的影帝是主演《最后的蘇格蘭王》的福里斯特·惠特克。拉斯：他可不嬌小。

布賴尼科恩：他不嬌小，可壯碩了。他又高又大塊頭。他的手長得跟棒球手套有一拼。他倆走下臺的時候，她開始哭了，哭得發抖，緊緊抓著并牢牢摟著他。而他非常溫柔，就那樣，輕拍她的頭，拍拍她的背。我記得她念叨著，說覺得自己暈頭轉向，完全迷失了。然后，他則安慰說道，是的，獎項的魔力就在此，有這樣的感覺是很正常的……

你知道嗎？類似的情景我不止一次在后臺目睹。那年杰夫·布里吉斯獲影帝，你也知道，那家伙平時挺氣定神閑的，凱特·溫斯萊特給他頒獎。下來的時候，她跟人稱“媽媽蘿絲”的終極星媽一般，在旁邊教導著他，讓他在那“致謝攝像頭”前向那些他在臺上忘了感謝的人道謝。而他則連什么是“致謝攝像頭”都不知道。然后還是她指路把他帶過去了。

拉斯：這些充當精神向導的明星們，有沒有哪幾位特別出色，哪些又沒那么稱職呢？

布賴尼科恩：那當然有。我記得桑德拉·布洛克憑《弱點》獲影后的那次，她像其他人那樣在拿到獎后從那全世界最閃亮的舞臺焦點走下臺，頓時掉進一片黑暗混沌中。她于是向剛給自己頒獎的西恩·潘求助，問下一步該怎么做，該向哪里走。而他則雙手插袋，聳聳肩，答道：“我不知道?！比缓缶妥唛_了。她只能站在原地，呆呆想著“現在該怎么辦呢？”你猜，接著是誰過來英雄救美的呢？拉斯：誰？

布賴尼科恩：福里斯特·惠特克剛好在后臺準備上去頒獎。桑德拉·布洛克說，你知道嗎，我現在最想要的是吃上一個芝士漢堡包。然后福里斯特·惠特克就告訴她，這好辦，走出這劇院，橙街對面，往下走，經過好萊塢大道，那兒有家“In-NOut”漢堡。他……我覺得呀，你要是贏了奧斯卡獎，得有這人在身邊才行。

拉斯：他們該安排福里斯特·惠特駐扎在后臺，給大家伸出援手。

布賴尼科恩：正是正是。呼叫福里斯特·惠特，大家需要你。

拉斯：安東尼·布賴尼科恩是《娛樂周刊》的資深專欄作家。安東尼，謝謝你上我們的節目。

布賴尼科恩：很榮幸來上節目。